If you haven’t seen Bill Moyers’ new show on PBS, Bill Moyers and Company, please make it a point to watch.
The first episode consisted of an interview with the two co-authors of Winner Take All Politics, Jacob Hacker and Paul Pierson.
Some highlights from the transcript:
JACOB HACKER: You know, the startling statistic that we have in the book is that if you take all of the income gains from 1979 to 2007, so all the increased household income over that period, around 40 percent of those gains went to the top one percent. And if you look at the bottom 90 percent they had less than that combined…
[W]hen you think about rising inequality, we think, “Oh, it’s the haves versus the have-nots.” That the top third of the income distribution, say, is pulling away from the bottom third.
And what we found is it’s not the haves versus the have-nots. It’s the have-it-alls versus the rest of Americans. And those have-it-alls, which are households in say the top one-tenth of one percent of the income distribution, the richest one-in-a-thousand households are truly living in an unparalleled age…
American politics did it far more than we would have believed when we started this research. What government has done and not done and the politics that produced it is really at the heart of the rise of an economy that has showered huge riches on the very, very, very well off…
BILL MOYERS: How did they do it?
PAUL PIERSON: Through organized combat is the short answer.
BILL MOYERS: And why did they do it?
JACOB HACKER: Because they could. Because the transformation of political organization, the creation of a powerful, organized business community, the degree to which that was self-reinforcing within both parties has meant that politicians have found that they can on issue after issue cater to the interests of the very well off while either ignoring or only symbolically addressing many of the concerns that are felt by most Americans and get reelected and survive politically.
[T]here is an organized, powerful constituency for deregulation, for high end tax cuts, for policies that are neglecting some of the serious middle class strains. And there just isn’t anything of comparable size or power on the other side…
When citizens are organized and when they press their claims forcefully, when there are reformist leaders within government and outside it who work on their behalf, then we do see reform. This is the story of the American democratic experiment of wave after wave of reform leading to a much broader franchise, to a much broader understanding of the American idea.
In the mid-20th century we saw a period in which income gains were broadly distributed, in which middle class Americans had voice through labor unions, through civic organizations and through, ultimately, their government. We’ve seen an erosion of that world, but just because it’s lost ground doesn’t mean it can’t be saved. And so in writing this book we were hoping to sort of tell Americans that what was valuable in the past could be a part of our future.
At the end of the show, Moyers pointed out a sign at the Occupy Wall Street protests, which said, “The system’s not broken. It’s fixed.” Moyers also talked about the Citizens United decision and said, “If speech is money, no money means no speech”
“Crony Capitalism” is the title of the second episode, and Reagan’s former budget director David Stockman was the first interviewee.
Several things Stockman said really struck a chord with me. From the transcript:
DAVID STOCKMAN: Crony capitalism is about the aggressive and proactive use of political resources, lobbying, campaign contributions, influence-peddling of one type or another to gain something from the governmental process that wouldn’t otherwise be achievable in the market. And as the time has progressed over the last two or three decades, I think it’s gotten much worse. Money dominates politics…
It’s not a free market. There isn’t risk taking in the sense that if you succeed, you keep your rewards, if you fail, you accept the consequences. Look what the bailout was in 2008.
There was clearly reckless, speculative behavior going on for years on Wall Street. And then when the consequence finally came, the Treasury stepped in and the Fed stepped in. Everything was bailed out and the game was restarted. And I think that was a huge mistake…
I think what was going on was simply a huge correction that was overdue on Wall Street. The big leverage hedge funds on Wall Street that called themselves investment banks weren’t really investment banks. They were just big trading operations using 30, 40 to one leverage. And it was that that was being corrected.
But they used the occasion of the Wall Street banking crisis to create the impression that this was the beginning of a kind of black hole the whole economy was going to drop into. I think that was wrong.
And it was that fear that led Congress to do anything they wanted. You know, the Congress gave them a blank check…
You can’t save free enterprise by suspending the rules just at the hour they’re needed. The rules are needed when it comes time to take losses. Gains are easy for people to realize. They’re easy for people to capture. It’s the rules of the game are most necessary when the losses have to occur because mistakes have been made, errors have been made, speculation has gone too far. The history has always been — and this is why we had Glass-Steagall and a lot of the legislation in the 1930s…
BILL MOYERS: Where is the shame? Shouldn’t these people have been at least a little ashamed of running the economy and the financial system into the ditch and then saying, “Come lift me out?”
DAVID STOCKMAN: Yes. You know, I think that’s part of the problem. I started on Capitol Hill in 1970s. And as I can vividly recall, corporate leaders then at least were consistent. They might’ve complained about big government, or they might’ve complained about the tax system.
But there wasn’t an entitlement expectation that if financial turmoil or upheaval came along, that the Treasury, or the Federal Reserve, or the FDIC or someone would be there to back them up. That would’ve been considered, you know, it would’ve been considered, as you say, shameful. And somehow, over the last 30 years, the corporate leadership of America has gotten so addicted to their stock price by the hour, by the day, by the week, that they’re willing to support anything that might keep the game going and help the system in the short run avoid a hit to their stock price and to the value of their options. That’s the real problem today. And as a result, there is no real political doctrine ideology left in the corporate community. They are simply pragmatists who will take anything they can find, and run with it.
BILL MOYERS: So this is what you mean, when you say free markets are not free. They’ve been bought and paid for by large financial institutions.
DAVID STOCKMAN: Right. I don’t think it’s entirely a corruption of human nature. People have always been inconsistent and greedy.
But I think it’s been the evolution of the political culture in which there have been so many bailouts, there has been so much abuse and misuse of government power for private ends and private gains, that now we have an entitled class in this country that is far worse than you know, remember the welfare queens that Ronald Reagan used to talk about?
We now have an entitled class of Wall Street financiers and of corporate CEOs who believe the government is there to do what is ever necessary if it involves tax relief, tax incentives, tax cuts, loan guarantees, Federal Reserve market intervention and stabilization. Whatever it takes in order to keep the game going and their stock price moving upward. That’s where they are…
BILL MOYERS: So many people say, “We’ve got to get money out of politics.” Or as you said, “Money dominates government today.”…
DAVID STOCKMAN: I think we have [to] eliminate all contributions above $100 and get corporations out of politics entirely.
Ban corporations from campaign contributions or attempting to influence elections. Now, I know that runs into current free speech. So the only way around it is a constitutional amendment to cleanse our political system on a one-time basis from this enormously corrupting influence that has built up. And I think nothing is really going to change until we get money out of politics and do some radical things to change the way elections are financed and the way the process is influenced by organized money. If we don’t address that, then crony capitalism is here for the duration.
You can support an effort to amend the Constitution to declare corporations are not persons and don’t have free speech at MoveToAmend.org.
MoveOn.org, egregious as their error was in 2008 in supporting Obama before they ever demanded anything of him, at least is demanding things now. They say that Obama may be making a decision soon over whether or not to support legislation to let the banksters off the hook. You can sign their petition demanding that these people be brought to justice.